Thank you so much for your advice. It is still worth inquiring about at your local dealership. or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? Up to that point the engine was smooth as silk!! Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up Seem N20 engine dont like hight gear with low rpm, and seem like bmw set economy to lug the engine like that. has reduced power output. SHAME ON BMW!!!!! Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. I called the mechanic he said it was a fault related to the emissions. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: designates changes to this revision or 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. I was told by a mechanic that the engine was done, simply by information from a scan. Is this true? Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) You only touched an accessories belt part. Wont restart. It definitely isnt a prominent/dangerous rattling sound like in the video Jack posted on Aug 30. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. Just to be clear, there are two different parts of the VANOS solenoids on the N20. Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck Enter the Chassis Number, Do you replace the units in such case, or do you know a trick to lose them? Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. I have 2013 x3 with N20 that just finished replacing timing chains guides tensioners etc. only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. Cost for the strap $7.49. 1; 120408 Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence E89X-13 -11-505 for the E84 and E89 N52 E91N 320i N46N E90N 335d E30 318i M10 e93 335i F10 520d E30 320i E84 X1 16i f20 116i f23n M240i F15 X5 30dX E46 325xi F32 428i N20 F10 520i e93 335i F25 X3 . It goes from 0 8 kpa and back to 0 will cranking do you have any idea what that reading should be on the fuel rail. Well, you could, but it's a slim chance you get the length of the rod exactly right. A service advisor at a reputable independent repair shop was concerned about the brief rattle/stutter (5 second mark) in this video upon ignition. Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. To my shame, I am not sure how to post video in your blog. How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? Ive got a 2014 320i with 36,000 miles. DME. Hello, The car has 176,000 kilometers or roughly 110,000 miles. I used my scope when inserting the crank pin holder and i assumed the hole in the flywheel closest to cams at tdc was the locking point, Is this correct? Sorry there are no replacement bolts for the N20 vanes unit that I know of,,,,,yes they are aluminum,,,the N20 and N26 vanes unit are not common to break not like the older one on N51 and N52, No, no Thank you for your time and expertise. she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly P0115; BMW 10AA40 Coolant-temperature sensor, electrical: no signal P112A; BMW 10AA50 Coolant-temperature sensor, plausibility: engine temperature in rel. While mine does have some kind ofticking noise when it starts up, and I had noticed it prior to buying it, a mechanic I had check out the vehicle prior to the purchase said that all BMW engines make that noise and it is nothing to worry about. I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. one of the plug had corroded pins due to leaking pigtail from that Dinan harness and i got the DME clone. Ive been told by dealership that timing chain is tight and has passed their test. 131908 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached Hi there I have a 2013 BMW f30 320 d EFF engine N47 T EUR model N47D20O1 production date 25/03/2013 ,does this engine have timing chain problems 175.000 Kilometers. I appreciate any input. I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. Today I changed Chain tensioner as preventative maintenance, but soon I start the car, I got Drivetrain Malfunction. Car start very well but no power and check engine light on code po52b. The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? Same. The N20 is a 2.0L inline-4 single turbo engine that replaced the naturally aspirated 3.0L N52/N53. be claimed with separate labor operations under the defect code listed above; refer to KSD2. Could you please guide me? For reasons I dont understand the faults are cleared. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34 If the fault code for camshaft position sensor goes away or swaps position from intake to exhaust (or vice versa), the fault code is being caused by the VANOS solenoid. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. check out the. Yes I have seen some engines survive,,,,it just hard to say what damage was done to the engine and how bad it is,,,,and is it worth fixing. or ground from chassis to engine? Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? 130304 It gave the code 2D61 VANOS Outlet control, position not reached. This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; I ended up scanning and getting below codes. I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. E84 and E89: I dont know who to believe the P2609 is for intake heater circuit which doesnt make any sense on your car,,,and now the dealership telling you he took a borescope and told you no oil circulating that is hard to do when you can see the oil pump or the oil pressure with out hooking up a oil pressure gauge,,,this all doesnt make any sense to me,,,,the dealer should of told you what faults the car has and what is causing the faults. and hi, I havent been sleeping well. 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Reply Quote. is there a chance that he is wrong? Timing is performed by the timing chain. Location: Chicago. The oil temperature was 90 C. Once the car started without faults the oil level check worked fine. Ok you have a couple of things going on here,,,,that fault code just ignore,,,that fault code is a bogus fault some kind of software bug,,,,,ok you start stop function not working I dont know without looking at the car,,,,now the car shutting off while driving sound like the fuel pump and the fuel pump relay EKPS module is going bad,,,,I would have those checked out next time. This turbocharged 2.0L inline-four was considered a replacement to the BMW N52 a naturally-aspirated, inline-six engine. everything in the vehicle works extremely well. Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. Here is a video of whats happening today. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? The 7 years/70000 miles extended limited warranty follows the VIN, so if the 2015 X3 is on the list, the N20/N26 engine will be covered. I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. I still have under 70k miles and not reached 7 years. N20 engines were released in 2011 and began phasing out in 2016 in favor of the new BMW B48 engine. Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve and clean it? 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML If so, can i buy the warranty for a used car now? 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence If you are interested here is the rest of the story. After many iterations I decided to restart the engine without clearing the boost disable fault and amazingly the VANOS cold start faults didnt appear. Your email address will not be published. You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. I dont want to sell the car because nobody is going to give me what I bought it for. 2D5A VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed Loss of power and smoke on the exhaust when accelerating. Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. If you are using a Main labor code for but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. It looks like the car is on this recall list. You should ask the dealer about it. But, it will need to be adjusted and tested properly using genuine BMW software. The car has 103,000 miles. 130108 131501-VANOS inlet, cold start not consolable. There are no timing codes. I cannot seize why the 320i has the issue however 220i should be similar engine N20 and not listed is it because of different KWH or what ? 130104 VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed One last question about dirty oil. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. Yes it does not say no signal. Note: When the ISTA system message displays: Battery voltage only XX.XX V. Please connect N20 vanos unit broken Posted on April 6, 2016 by bmwtechnician Ok here's another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. To determine if any applicable Federal, State or BMW Emissions Warranty coverage applies prior You can't just bolt it up and clear the fault. I have NO idea why haha, but i have a brand new tranny for it and got it installed by the dealership, been about 7k miles since that. Are there many vehicles that run on ethanol in the United States? What me be causing this? I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. No turnover on start at all. Earlier this week I took my 2012 328i to dealership because check engine light came on. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 I have a X1 E84 with the N20 engine. The documentation claimed that it would take one minute for the VANOS cold start faults to appear. In sports mode, or when driving more active in doesn't come on. BMW Fault Code Lookup Enter a BMW fault code (P or hex), complete the Captcha, and click "Search" P-Codes will start with a P and are usually generated by generic scanners. The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. Common Symptoms Increase in fuel consumption Poor engine performance Possible misfire on start-up Cold start issues Possible Causes There are several possible causes for this code, such as: Damaged camshaft position sensor Defective crankshaft position sensor 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank sprocket. Hi, I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. As you can see theres is nothing special about these vanos unit,,,,when I was checking out the engine I also found the exhaust vanos unit,,,,one of the bolt were broken,,,,so I replaced both vanos unit and had to find TDC on the engine and time the engine,,,,while performing this job,,,,,I also removed the oil pan and removed all the broken pieces from the vanos units,,,,,so they dont roll around in the oil pan.,,,,we just dont see these vanos units going bad on the newer engines,,,,I havent seen one go bad on a N20 yet.,,,,as a tech this is not a bad job,,,,pays ok if you can work fast,,,,replacing both vanos units and removing the oil pan,,,,,all can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and dont mess up the timing which we all have done at some time..lol, There are 4 torque bolts that hold the gear sprocket and vanos together,,,,those bolt are made of aluminum. N20 Vanos Solenoid Valve BMW tech info says the cams need to be locked down to remove the Vanos valve. 131401 F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. Yesterday when i was driving the car normally on the hwy the drivetrain malfunction popped up and car went into a reduced power mode. During a recent oil change & tire rotation service visit, my regular BMW service establishment (non-dealership) let me know my timing chain was loose and I should get it checked out at the local BMW dealership. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. F25 120408: Boost pressure control, cut off pressure rise blocked. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: Was it how the faults were cleared that made the difference? So your car software level is July of 2019,,,,this is when it was last updated,,,so your car has fairly new software. There can typically be a ton of different. Had mechanic put on Autel code reader diagnostics and got 10 or so codes relating to things such as the dinamic stability control, fuel pump. BMW says I caused engine cease. Now getting error 131501. Do I have to buy the extended warranty to get the timing chain replaced by BMW or the 7/70 warranty is for all bmw? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ASE and BMW Master Certified Technician 09-28-2017, 07:33 PM #6 Ramos8553 Member Join Date Sep 2017 my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. As the outgoing N52 and N53 were reliable engines, the BMW N20 had big shoes to fill, especially given its turbocharged design. 61 00 730 Refer to KSD2 Programming/encoding control unit(s) The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. 96K views 5 years ago The BMW N54 and N52 typically have the most issues with this. That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. Work time (WT) labor operation 61 00 006 requires an individual punch time. I would love to listen to your video,,,please send it. How can fuel be the cause? The engine is running rough at idle. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? Other Repairs With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. should I buy timing lock kit to lock the cams and cranksshaft in place? BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. I have a SULEV vehicle so its definitely an N20 engine. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. 61 00 006 WT Performing vehicle diagnosis test It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. Note that the desired angle was constant. Do u recommend changing the tensioner as preventive maintenance? It also features dual VANOS, valvetronic, and direct injection. Ive search, alot of people have it problem but no solution.It dont like bmw :). The car has lost complete power and now I the drive train malfunction light on, engine light on, low oil pressure light on. Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. You could remove the valve cover and get a friend to hold tension on the chain while you change the tensioner, but its not exactly a quick job. 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached Look into loose connectors. Could this be the timing chain? if I have used the tool how it is possible no to be on timing ?! The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Page 4 of 4 This time the desired angle was not a constant as in the previous tests. check out the. Thank You very much for the reply !! within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the It cannot be timing. iTrader: ( 0) After change chain tensioner - Drivetrain Malfunction. No car manufacturer is going to tell you the problems with their car,,,they are just worried about the sale of that car,,,,not what is wrong with that car. Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. They also included a video from the technician. PROCEDURE Maybe I should replace them? Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? Engine also has forged crankshaft with 4 counterweights that is installed with shift. My car has very low mileage, is in excellent condition and I really enjoy driving it, but this potential catastrophe has me concerned.Thank you for your time & expertise. The improved DME software was introduced 130104 What is your opinion about the above? Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? CAUSE Did you hear anything like this before? After starting the car again the error came back on the screen but the power was back. It should show something like incorrect angle/position. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Question,,,what is a DME clone,,,,is it a used DME?,,,,or a aftermarket replacement DME. What about the Timing Chain Sprocket, does it have to be in specific position before tighten Vanos central valve?! It started during a hot day waiting at a traffic light. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. Im not really sure its my 2012 BMW 320i (F30) probably produced from 05/2012 affected by this or not as its did not show in the list. Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? So I was just under by kilometers and by time (Delivery was Aug 2012). Seems like the locking pins are stuck. 1c0102 Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. The boost disable fault was cleared and the engine restarted. Hello there, loving your info. Thanks you! Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. test drove car, get a few codes. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.51.0 or higher. It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Hi,,,yes your car is not on the list but that doesnt mean that it still has this problem,,,and since your car is 4 wheel drive the chain is not being used more it is the same on both 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive,,,,now if you want to keep the vehicle it is a good idea to replace the timing chain and rails and oil pump chain for safety reasons. I bought a BMW F20 118i with N13 1.6 engine. I did not receive this bulletin to my knowledge, maybe because I am the 2nd owner of the car as of February 2019(?). Hi I live in California and im planning to buy a used 2015 bmw x3 xDrive28i (F25) then I saw the this post. Or will my timing chain, etc. Hello! Or anything else you have come across? https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard This test sets a desired crankshaft angle for the VANOS and measures the actual angle. So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. Cheers, Also, I had the whole transmission replaced at 42K miles when I bought it. Thanks. We rebuilt it. I bought a used 2012 528i with 109k miles about 4 months ago. The oil and filter were changed along with the timing chain. Required fields are marked *. The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. Would there be a difference between our 2 continents with regard to production? Intake Camshaft: Installation faulty. The update can only be done at the dealer,,,you will only need a update if there is some kind of BMW recall on software or if at anytime your car might need some other repair which might call for a update for the repairs.,,,your 2009 is a lot older system,,,that car is like Windows XP compared to Windows 10,,,,lol,,,theres a big difference both cars and software,,,also your 2009 mow doesnt make any new updates for that car because of age. The improved DME software was introduced Turn the ignition on. The Bank 1 on the definition refers to the side of the engine that has the cylinder #1. and if necessary, also It had deteriorated and failed. Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. If BMWNA does not fix this N20/N26 TC issue, a chunk of remaining faithfuls will deflect to other brands. Turbo engines are more complex and require several . https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 What could be the problem? I have maintained it meticulously. Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. Code 131501 returned. also it has a start stall initially. If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck Do you think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor? My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. Ok,,,if you have a sulve then you have a N26 which is ok,,,you need to tell the dealership that you hear a abnormal whine from the engine area and hopefully they do something about this timing chain issue. (not including CAS) Learn how your comment data is processed. Hi bmwtechnician, New battery installed. Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? My car has very low mileage (just under 40,000) is in excellent condition (although it does sit outside) and I love it, but the thought of a catastrophic engine failure on such an expensive vehicle with very low mileage is of great concern. BMW wont tell us why some models have problems and some dont,,,,it could be because of horsepower,,,,,you could replace tensioner if you want,,,,,it wouldnt hurt anything, Thanks for the reply i think its 220i and 320i uses the exact engine N20 my F22 2014 car now has 105000kms since its not in the list , in general what do u advice me to do shall i just keep my ears alerted to sounds or u advise me to take to service center and maintain the chain so i can save the engine ? Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. another repair, use the Plus code labor operation 00 00 556 instead. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. The boost disable was cleared by itself. Exhaust Camshaft: Installation faulty. One customer describe his 2013 BMW F18 525Li with 61000km mileage got trouble.The car engine warning light on and central display "Transmission malfunction".But it can start engine and accelerate normally.More repair cases about BMW,please check here:BMW Trouble Repair Use BMW ISID to diagnose,got trouble code as below: Fault Code: 135401 Fault Explanation: Valvetronic: overloaded Any thoughts!!! Seems like this is on the list. So now I have one BMW expert telling me its loose and should be taken care of by the dealership, and the dealership is telling me everything is good to go, no problems. Now im getting vanos inlet, outlet codes, along with vanos camshaft jammed for both intake and exhaust. Bringing the BMW community together. I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. Brought it to a second mechanic. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? E84 and E89: My daughters 2013 survived. 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