My collages actually reflect the situation of overabundance. 97AN: He is focusing on the foot; and hes probably also aware of the foot when hes doing the short stanzas. I gave a talk on his poetry last month, in New York, which I wrote during the cold snap, when it was too cold to go out for three days. I grew up with the Mojaves, going to school with them. Shes made few changes to her approach to the work. and Laurence B. HOLLAND. Teds father worked for the Tip-Top Bread factory and died when he was fifty of a heart attack, after being laid off due to mechanization. When I was writing such pieces and reading them they changed a lot; but it was about trying to get how the mind works, which meant I was writing generally as fast as I could while still keeping self-control, which is why I allowed all these part-words to come in. Courtesy of Alice Notley, re-photographed by Daesong Kim, April 2018. Nadja, in uvres compltes, tome 1. A fairly long poem that Notley generally reads quickly, At Night the States gives the reader a feeling of being pulled through grief and back into life, with irregular syntax signaling the disruption to day-to-day living caused by a great loss. Blinding the White Horse in Front of Me in Certain Magical Acts. The artist George Schneeman, perhaps most famous for his artworks that appeared on the covers of dozens of books of poetry, did all of the covers for the magazine. DR: Where leftover misery goes Can a poem be like a dance? I actually feel bad when I dont write, like yesterday, but I always have something going on. DR: He has said that he started doing collages in his twenties and continued throughout his life. There were four kids, including a couple still at home. Alice Notley: That's the future. I knew that I was also doing something like what they used to talk about in college: the taking of two disjunctive things then the jamming of them together: that was part of our critical education at the time; in fact, John Ashbery would have had it too, probably, though he was twenty years older than I was. But I met himI met everybodyaround 1968. [1] She received a Bachelor of Arts from Barnard College in spring 1967 and left New York City that fall for the fiction program at the Iowa Writers' Workshop. [1] [2] The poem is notable for Notley's extensive use of quotation marks throughout, which she has described as part of her attempt to reclaim the narrative function. New York: Scribner Poetry, 2001, p.120-124. One of her main currents of experimentation has revolved around the search for a feminine epic, one that could serve as an alternative to the male stories that have dominated the history of poetry since Homer. Need a transcript Alice Notley has become one of Americas greatest living poets. American Literature between the Wars, 1914-1945. Gen. Ed. Here is a brief introduction to her poetry through some of the poems that appear on the Poetry Foundation website, in chronological order from her earlier books to her more recent work. In 1999, Notley was both a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize and a winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for Poetry. I havent changed much since I first began writing: Notley came to prominence as a member of the second generation of the New York School of poetryalthough she has always denied being involved with the New York School or any specific movement in general. 121AN: No, never: when I address enemies, I am not carrying them on my shoulder; Im being intensely annoyed by them. Alice Notley has earned a reputation as one of the most challenging and engaging radical female poets at work today. 94AN: I use all those units and I am aware of how they overlap. interview (2015) she says that she learned from John Ashbery never to complete a thought, which is a rich idea. She was educated in the Needles public schools, Barnard College, and The Writer's Workshop, University of Iowa. I always liked his paintings. Ive noticed it with my granddaughters. Im working on arcane things at the moment which I find hard to talk about. 20DR: Eileen Myles is another poet who comes from an Irish, working-class, New England background and lost her father. Ive written so much in my life that Ive become able to control it all; and when it feels like Im letting go, Im not. Instead, she gravitated increasingly toward archetype and mytha search for primordial language bubbling under the surface. Alice Notley wanders through a Paris cemetery and speaks to her dead father about her life in France, where she has lived since 1992. She has lived most extensively in Needles, in New York, and since 1992 in Paris, France. Her search culminated in The Descent of Alette (1992), a book-length poem that tells the story of a woman questing through a sinister subway underworld. Notley's 1985 play "Anne's White Glove," a commission by Ada Katz's Eye and Ear Theater navigated the pain of Berrigan's death, and her collections Margaret & Dusty (Coffee House, 1985), Parts of a Wedding (Unimproved Editions, 1986), and At Night the States (The Yellow Press, 1987) contain material written during a period of mourning. 9AN: I dont remember that poem, Syringa, but John tends to pick things out: he used to keep lists of his titles and then he would decide to write the poem of that title. Alice Notley has become one of Americas greatest living poets. Notley citesin parta reading by Robert Creeley as early inspiration for her writing more poetry. 27AN: I dont think thats true of her poetry though, and I dont think thats what John did exactly. DR: Also Im coming back often to that poem, In this Paradise, about the food-stamp office. The artist Rudy Burckhardt once wrote that Notley may be our present-day Homer. Peggy went to work at two jobs for ever; then there was a point where Johnny, the youngest, had to leave home, and she had a nervous breakdown, which was when I met her. DR: Its incredible because, I just re-read. I use the collages to go on without thinking with words. 1976 saw Notley and Berrigan moving their family permanently to New York City's Lower East Side, where they'd live together until Berrigan's death in 1983. DR: With your interpolation of popular culture into epic poetry, I would expect you to be a household name here in France. The poem is addressed, at least in part, to Berrigan, who died in 1983, and the speaker longs to make sense of a country without him in it. NOTLEY, Alice. Which is something that John Ashbery would probably have agreed with, in a way. Over the course of her career, Alice Notley has achieved something astounding: each of her nearly 30 books is different from the last one yet unmistakably hers. I mean sometimes theres a lot of garbage but not usable garbage and so it takes me a long time to get anything made. Poetry itself can be thought of as that which comes from afar. Alma, or The Dead Women. 91DR: You quote the powerful, assertive voice of Marianne Moore in a poem. They ran away into abstract poetry: that makes a lot of sense to me. BAYM, Nina. I. The couple returned to Chicago for a brief period of time after their year in England before moving to New York City in 1976. In this midcareer lyric, the poet plays with the idea of citizenship in the everyday, exploring how, as poets and pedestrians, family members and lovers, people always exist somewhere betweenIandwe. Then I found all the spots around the world in them and talked about them as being set in the world as a whole, saying that was a fitting poetry for now, when were all crossing borders all the time: spanning geography is the main event today, because there are so many people. AN: Well, you learn a lot from teaching, at the beginning. 214, fall 2015, p.34-121. 79DR: Where leftover misery goes Can a poem be like a dance? In addition to collections of poetry, Notley has published the autobiography Tell Me Again (1982), the play Annes White Glove (1985), and a book of essays on poets and poetry, Coming After (2005). 98DR: Frank OHara was strongly influenced by Williams, and you in turn take a lot from OHara. They wanted people to come and put the dances on, trying to help preserve them actually (there were about fifteen or twenty Indian Tribes in Arizona). His reviews and interviews have appeared in Kenyon Review, The Rumpus, and Pleiades. 53DR: The disturbing political and historical moment we are experiencing could disrupt many collective dreams. But every time he quoted somebody he misquoted him or her without even knowing it, so he always made the texture his own. NOTLEY, Alice. When he died in 2000, Alice Notley was sufficiently settled into Paris to remain there. , Montreal: Club Roll, 2012. I started noticing my dreams before I met Ted [Berrigan], but he used his dreams, and I just started doing it more after I was with him; then, after he died I did it even more. YouTube. 82AN: Its not a dance; its a pattern of sounds: its in my voice which I think is sometimes better than singing, when I say the poems. While Notley had written on motherhood prior to Songs, this book was her first to focus fully on the matter and is the first full-length book of a New York School-affiliated poet to take on the task of addressing poetry's sexism and the pressures and setbacks of motherhood in both personal and creative life. Produced by Curtis Fox. Notley is often categorized as a poet of the second generation of the New York School, along with writers such as Eileen Myles and Anne Waldman. I went down there is simple, but it is rich. When I was a young poet, I couldnt figure out what to title anything, and I discussed this with Ted, who said: You should write to Ron Padgett and get a list of titles, which I did; he just made up all these titles for me. I think its just all out there. Perhaps some of Notleys techniques have been absorbed into contemporary poetrys vocabulary, but, as long as conformity threatens, Notley will continue to push against it, or perhaps simply beyond it. I could have a conversation about Royal Trux: a very chaotic indie group, sometimes awful, sometimes amazingly brilliant. She was educated in the Needles public schools, Barnard College, and The Writers Workshop, University of Iowa. But I met himI met everybodyaround 1968. . Some have linked Notley's geographical move to Parissince it followed a period of intensely personal writingas also marking a creative distance between herself and her poems, though her books Mysteries of Small Houses (Penguin, 1998) and Culture of One (Penguin, 2011) engage very much with personal matter. DR: Right, thats a strong, colonizing streak in Western culture. David Reckford: Among the physical, cultural, and intellectual environments that have formed your particular sensitivity, there seems to be several strong and contrasting places. 1967; University of Iowa, Iowa City, M.F.A . Eileen was in it, as was Bob Holman. Courtesy of the artist, re-photographed by Daesong Kim, April 2018. Among Notleys most famous works is At Night the States, an elegy for Berrigan written two years after his death. You and Ted published it in your review, AN: I started to be quite influenced by him at that point, and I think I influenced him in the writing of the book. STEIN, Gertrude. DR: There was a pop song in the 1960s by the Three Dog Night. Notleys language is, as ever, mystifying: in lines fluid yet clipped, interior yet discursive, she turns the idea of independence inside out to discover its seams. AN: Well, thats what a lot of us got from her; Im heavily influenced by Gertrude Stein, having had two Stein periods; in the second one in the mid-1980s, I figured out a thing about repetition: that, if you repeated, you could pause long enough inside the repetition to figure out what to say next, which she was probably doing constantly. Notley is the author of over 40 books of poetry, including 165 Meeting House Lane (1971), Phoebe Light (1973), Incidentals in the Day World (1973), For Frank OHaras Birthday (1976), Alice Ordered Me to Be Made: Poems 1975 (1976), Dr. Williams Heiresses (1980), How Spring Comes (1981), which received the San Francisco Poetry Award, Waltzing Matilda (1981), Margaret & Dusty (1985), From a Work in Progress (1988), Homers Art (1990), To Say You (1993), Selected Poems of Alice Notley (1993), The Descent of Alette (1996), among many others. NOTLEY, Alice. In his humorous anti-manifesto, Personism, the poet Frank OHara discloses one of arts great truths: you just go on your nerve. Considering this truth, he wonders, But how can you really care if anybody gets it, or gets what it means, or if it improves them. In the search for immediacy, he writes, questions of accessibility can come to seem pointless: Improves them for what? DR: Well I think of Williams as a kind of Calder mobile waiting to enter into movement. Instead of second-guessing their style, we could talk about the way they handled the tasks. I felt I knew what the cry house was, and had ideas about it: I knew how to use regional things. There is, however, some hope to be found in Millions of Us, which ends We have this project to / change our silence into the beautiful city of a voice. For death? New York: Columbia Records, 1989. I assume I've learned a little more since the last time I taught, and that I've a little more to learn in the teaching. Alice. But he also gave us a new way to think about nature itself. In this Poem Talk podcast devoted to this poem, it is read as a sort of non-political political poem, bringing the personal into the public. The circle of younger poets who spent time with Notley and Berrigan included the aforementioned members of the Yellow Press team, Barbara Barg, Rochelle Kraut, Rose Lesniak, Bob Rosenthal, Steve Levine, Simon Schuchat, Tim Milk, and several others. The editors discuss Amy Newman's "Howl," Alice Notley's "This Fire," and a series of limericks by Anthony Madrid. , in a Chicago museum. El jugador controla a Alice durante todo el juego corriendo, saltando, esquivando y atacando. New York: Scribner Poetry, 2001, p.120-124. AN: I met him once, Barnett Newman, right before he died. I think that is what she said, because her greatest influence was Henry James: she takes his sense of the sentence and turns it into those stanzas. 62I am furious about people calling their speech against Trump the resistance. However, I have a poem, which happened to be written before Trump was elected, in an anti-Trump-type anthology thats coming out because I figure any place I can get a poem published is an occasion to seize. AN: The whole book is about her, actually: she and Medea keep coming back. New Addresses. One year at a big Thanksgiving dinner, I sat next to the poet Michel Deguy; many of his friends in Paris were met for instance when playing tennis. I gave a talk on his poetry last month, in New York, which I wrote during the cold snap, when it was too cold to go out for three days. 68DR: Your humor, in poems like The Prophet (which asks hilariously, Does a hippopotamus get the shakes?) is slightly less well known than your readiness to tackle political subjects. DR: What do you think of Gertrude Stein and of the kind of permutations she does: almost like rolling things around in your mouth? ASHBERY, John. Recent books continue to be at least somewhat character centered. Whys not valid here. Notley claims it was boring and returned to Iowa City where she met the poet Ted Berrigan who began as an instructor at the school that fall. In fact, he had a whole career as a journalist, and knew how to research, to inform his opinions, and to look at events without a preexisting opinion: thus, I learned how to do that from him, though I find that few today are so intellectually honest. DR: It seems to be an inspired collage. The Circus (1971). However, I dont know what I was listening to when I was beginning to write. And that other one was something I just picked up from the sidewalk. She describes it as an immense act of rebellion against dominant social forces, against the fragmented forms of modern poetry, against the way a poem was supposed to look according to both past and contemporary practice. The narrator, Alette, finds herself in a feminist epic, on a subway, traveling deeper and deeper in the tunnels, into an underworld filled with caves and otherworldly characters. 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