However, the general health standards to meet a drivers license requirement would seem to be a good screening source to id potential problems of health. Read from the question directly above the one you linked to: Long-standing FAA regulation, 61.53, prohibits all pilotsthose who are required to hold airman medical certificates and those who are notfrom exercising privileges during periods of medical deficiency. So please just be honest you they are gonna find out about one day or another just like the case out in California back in 2005 for pilots lying about question 18y Medical disability benefits and many of them were in legal trouble. I completely agree with you. If youre over 40 and your first-class medical is not renewed within six calendar months, itll revert to the privileges of a second-class medical for an additional six months. Just waht we need more busybodys like you who cant mind their own business. I can understand, in the last 5 years, but most of my things are now 20 years old and I still have to report them-no change. On checking this I was advised the costs would be in the region of 600+. Sorry, screwing around with Oklahoma City since May 2011 (not 2010). Perhaps its not actually a lie, maybe just selectively forgetting something. This is to screen for diabetes and kidney disease. An example is the FAAs recent rule change on anti-depressant use. HIPPA Law prevents them from looking at your medical history without your consent. But knowing that the FAA has little humor, we all put no. 11-06-2013, 09:45 AM #7 ackattacker. It only came after I got out of the loop and had the hospital send the info straight to OK. You know how we all type up our medical records now, at least they think so. Its a losing game. That process will have to be repeated every year. That cost me about six months of flying. He was a commercial pilot flying 727s. I WAS A BIRD DOG PILOT IN VIETNAM FOR 3+ YEARS WHEN I WAS SENT TO THE DECK BY SMALL ARMS FIRE. Are they going to question my patriotism or mental stability? in detail and conduct a physical exam. Yes the present medical sytem sucks but, its all we have until better management goes to Washington. I could not stop thinking about being in the air. Commercial pilots, or military pilots or leisure pilots may have lied during their lifetimes, but it is unfair to only single out the pilots. If this is a recurrent problem, getting a class 3 medical can be difficult. Its about cooperating with your doc so you can keep doing what you love. Instead, they send a letter asking for more information from you and your doctors. :). They generally do not spend a significant amount of time reviewing each one. Your signature at the bottom authorizes the FAA to search the National Drivers Registry for violations involving alcohol or illegal drugs, for instance, so you may want to think twice about trying to conceal a drunk driving conviction. The AME is there to help you get a medical LEGALLY when you have one or more disqualifying conditions. You want to be an ATP, you have two pilots. ANY RESPONSE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! The AME certified you as ok to fly, now the feds second guess him. I am working with a private party who specializes in this sort of thing and he cant really give me definitive answers either; just educated opinion and guidance. No. They are actually almost the same as for Third Class. No legal issue or problem is too small or too large for The Ison Law Firm. astronaut training. I got the picture regarding medical, but am concerned about the section regarding legal history. The only variable is about what. Dr. House. As one previous poster mentioned, why not let the AME make more of the calls, especially for class 3? https://www.oig.dot.gov/sites/default/files/SAFE_PILOT_Testimony_july17.pdf. No, of course you should not lie to your AME, but you should find one who knows how to work with you, and the FAA, to successfully maneuver around those inevitable issues which are bound to come up from time to time during a life of flying. That is approximately the same magnitude as deaths from lightning strikes, or falling out of bed (literally). If they find any issues, they will ask for more information. Every child at some point decides to spin around and around until they are dizzy and fall down. In this age of fax machines, email, twitter, facebook, linked in, etc, it is obvious that the FAA is stuck in the past. You can mail or fax your request for aircraft records or Request Copies of Aircraft Records online. Your family and friends consider you more important than any flying you may do. The information provided on this website is not intended to be a replacement or substitute for professional medical advice. I have patients with heart disease who are able to continue to fly on special issuance. Misdiagnosed with epilepsy. Of course they do. there would be no one to fly these jumbo jets. I would be totally fine with an evaluation, but it sounds like a lengthy- expensive- and rather rigorous test that offers no gurentee to a medical. Whether or not your AME issues your medical certificate, the FAAs Aeromedical Certification Division (AMCD) will review your application. If you have not needed counselling for a year or more (maybe less) and are not taking an antidepressant, get a note from your counsellor and take it with you to the appoint with the AME. KL, I have no problem with the current system. Otherwise I tend to be so healthy that I simply wouldnt ever go to the doctor. A separate authorization request is required for each record released to any third party (physician, insurance company, employer, etc.) No pill makes that any different no weekly conversation with an over-paid, disinterested asshole makes it different either. The flight surgeon is not my friend. The current system not only encourages dishonesty, it encourages pilots to avoid medical treatment and ignore symptoms. By logging into your account, you agree to our. Funny thing is the murmur is gone but Ill never have my life back If you lie on your medical form Best of luck. 99.999999% of pilots can and should self-certify for 3rd class flying. What you didnt? He knew it. Returning home, the Civil Aviation Medical Board cleared me for flying. All content is fact-checked before publication. I need some advice from experienced pilots / medical professionals about a problem. His point is that no one requires commercial There are heart transplant pilots flying. Its not lying its letting them find out, which would probably never happen unless something came out about it. May just you please lengthen them a little from next time? A related question would be do people fly without a medical illegally? This article does not in any way counsel the reader as to how to appropriately respond to questions on the FAA medical application, nor does it give medical advice regarding the accuracy of the readers medical history. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. You get caught lying on a medical, they'll do a lot more than just bust your balls. Generally, first-class is designed for the airline transport pilot; second-class for the commercial pilot; and third-class for the student, recreational and private pilot. All medical certificates are valid for 60 months, unless youre 40 or older the day you get it (then its 24 months). But have to retest for awake and alertness annually. lie if you want, hell find out. This is left bundle branch block which is a stop as far as the CAA is concerned. If you think your AME charges too much, find someone else. I have thought about going Sport Pilot but if I am not healthy enough to pass tests for a 3rd class physical I am not healthy enough to fly sport pilot. Also why does your local AME put something on your report and call it insignificant but 6 months later the FAA makes a federal case of it and wants more tests for this insignificant thing. In other words, your health is in your hands. This is one of those typical government deny-theres-a-problem attitudes that eventually comes to a head when something major and catastrophic happens. I do not think that there is anybody who does not lie or has not lied at one time or another. Before I was flying my previous HMO physician told me I was the perfect patient for the insurance company because I hadnt shown up for seven years. They may only get 3rd class, but they are flying with strict guidelines on preflight accu check, inflight accu check, etc. No he should not have been grounded. Each time the Dr. hit the switch, my friend kicked me under the table and I could respond that I had heard the tone in the headset as required. I can empathize with that Louis. The FAA is able to see what medication a pilot has been subscribed because they have access to the national prescription database. I know a guy from the US (cant tell his name) that told me that he has lied at least one time, he was overweight and had high blood pressure, he was medicated but he never told that in his annual. I sure as hell would. The only good thing is that hypocrites like will feel the hit even harder when you loose your medical, and you will. One is. If you can pass a regular physical, youre probably in good enough shape to fly, physically, anyway. You had better not try to get on medication to calm you down and thus make you a safer pilot because you will no longer be able to fly. Now do you AMEs see how ridiculousness the form is? How about an 83 year-old on medication for type II diabetes, depression, and senility taking medication for all 3 problems? I know a pilot who lost enough weight for his sleep apnea to disappear. Comparatively, what I take is barely more than a prescription grade Imodium AD. He then went on to work for the leading aviation magazines, including as editor of both AOPA Pilot and Flying. Never used my weapon except for training. The AOPA and the EAA are going to propose an exemption to the third class physical exam that would allow us to use our drivers license as our medical to fly recreational. I also feel that anyone flying not-for-hire who can truthfully answer no to all the medical questions should be allowed to submit that form directly to the FAA and maintain his medical without needing to see his AME. Im a 24 year old healthy male non smoker athlete with 20/20 vision and I cant fly because I took adderal as needed for help concentrating in school. and moved on to checking the no column for the rest of the page. She rekindled an unpursued interest I buried over 30 years ago when we got married and started having children. As for lying on the medical form, lies can be undiscovered for a lifetime of flying, but if there is an incident or accident, the FAA and/or NTSB will dredge up every doctor visit, medication, hospitalization they can. Now a question: Should 80+ year old pilots with type II diabetes, hypertension, a coronary artery stent or two, on 3-4 medications be allowed to fly a 6000# gross weight airplane with 5 passengers up to 14,000 feet, VFR or IFR without having had a medical exam by an AME? I am working on my private pilot license and I was honest and admitted to an episode of seasonal depression treated with medication (which I no longer require or take). Make no mistake: Form 8500-8 is a legal instrument, unlike many other documents. Nope, they requested an entirely new one. This is just as important an issue as the proverbial get homeitis.. Any deviation from general standards of health found would/should require a more intense examination/(s.). Free health screenings, nope, wont do those, might turn up something (whether correctly or incorrectly) that could end up costing me a fortune to deal with. I have been flying for 39 years and professionally since I was 18. will most definitely warrant deferral by the AME and evaluation of your eligibility for a medical certificate by the FAA. no? I go to sleep. Home | About | Contact | Copyright | Report Content | Privacy | Cookie Policy | Terms & Conditions | Sitemap. You have to be careful what you ask for. Fess and get a special issuance if necessary. About a week before I was suppose to be soloed I went for my medical and was told by my AME that I cant fly because I take adderal. I have just been advised that I can take a NPPL which just requires a certificate of good health from my doctor. A pilot might reason, for example, that the antidepressant he's taken for months hasn't caused any side effects and actually makes him more mentally fit to fly, a safer pilot. TH REASON IS FOR INJURIES I RECIEVED WHEN MY 01 LANDED WITH OUT A RUNWAY. The real problem was that I also am prescribed anti-diarrhea medication and I take it as needed. The next hell will be finding out what conditions they place on that SI. While my husband sailed through after having lied. I agree the sport licensse should include at least up to a 152, super cub and all two seat trainers. Why would you need to report that? However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. Having spent over 10k learning to fly I was advised at my medical I had LBBB. I can get it back, but I have to go through a fairly extensive bureaucratic morass to recover it, then jump through extra hoops over the years to keep it. With over 20,000 hours of real world experience, much of it in Cessna 172s and P210s, Collins wrote about safety, weather and air traffic control from first-hand experience. Society cares little about helping people with mood disorders beyond marginalizing them and throwing them into a risk factor category and dismissing their issues. He proceeded to read off the list and after a half dozen items to which I responded No, he said You wouldnt tell me if you had any of these, would you? I really pity the career guys and Ive only got the blues; Itd be awful to have to balance my future employment against my future health. The other is you tell the FAA about something. Federal employees should qualify for at least a class three medical for airmen and let us toss in the medication list and drug testing for commercial drivers. AMCD will consider much more than the information you submitted in MedXPress and your AMEs exam findings. Where is this regulation? People, in general, are in better health than they were 20-30 years ago, largely by not smoking, watching their weight, eating less fatty foods, etc. Has anyone seen that data? For example, what if one is tired or snores. If you decide to undergo a physical despite questionable health, first gather all medical documents, such as a letter from your family doctor stating that a condition has been treated and resolved, and present them to the AME. What I think is if a driver goes to the DMV to go get his eyes checked then that drivers license should be his medical as his third class and it would save the government money because there wouldnt be as many pilots to go after it would just be the professionals. whether, in their life, have they been diagnosed with, had, or presently have a history of ADHD. Now I prefer Wingwalking. Taint worth messing up folks. My question is what are they doing in order to get caught. They are busy guarding the barn only after the horse is back inside. My problem is with it taking MONTHS of run around after the issue is handled to the FAAs satisfaction per the conditions they themselves tell us we need to meet. If pilots routinely lie, but its never a safety issue I asked him why I had to jump through all these hoops if I could get a waiver. My AME is like a brother to me and a damn good doc to boot Lamentably, if I have something which could be a liability to me on my next medical, I can not ask my AME/best friend about my problem, and discuss it with him. There shouldnt be different standards for flying than are for driving. If you have determined that you are not healthy enough to fly sport, then you have done exactly what the Sport program is intended to do; leave the decision to the pilot. My father had passed his class 2 physical 3 weeks before having a massive heart attack and dieing at the ripe old age of 50. The hypocrisy at the FAA hurts general aviation in lots of ways. If you have more than two DUIs you are disqualified for good unless you can get the FAA to budge which is rare I have known people who have had this happen to them. Im 64 and working on my PP license. And on the other hand we have people like the pilot mentioned in J. Mac McClellans article Too Many Risks in the May 2012 issue of Sport Aviation who out right lied about his substance use and abuse. My name is not Gustavo either. So at least the medical makes we go for a check up. No faxes or emails are allowed. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. Lets assume 10%, which is probably a high figure. I was better off lying. For what do you have special issuance? You are there to take away joy and livelihood. Told the truth, The FAA took my license. Thats a good way to get into a LOT of trouble. I know of several pilots who have useful vision in only one eye or have amblyopia that makes it impossible for them to pass the eye exam. Ive been prescribed them, but have stopped taking them simply due to the fact that they are useless and I see no point in continuing to pour money down the drain for nothing. You may think you told the truth but you absolutely did not. If you cannot read the serial number plate on the airplane that just flew by you then you should not be allowed to fly. Dont worry about getting caught unless you lie about you criminal history you will be fine. Stay up to date with the latest articles and selections from our archives. Ignorance is, therefore, no excuse for not disclosing one of the following conditions: Due to the self-reporting nature, the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical arent very high. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. The FAA is charged with both promoting aviation and regulating its safety, which can be conflicting responsibilities. PER your admission the need for a medical is a mute issue I drive there for I fly. Simply having an assault on record does not by itself result in denial. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. The responsibility for a safe flight in my aircraft is mine not the AMES, and most certainly not the FAAs. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Insurance companies now have a way out of paying the claim and if there were passengers or other property damage involved now lawyers get involvedsomething to think about! Many pilots have waited months or years for their medical certificates because each new record they provide to justify their medical certificate eligibility reveals another ailment they did not disclose before. Your AME will review your MedXPress application in detail and conduct a physical exam. 45,000 Northern California pilots with current medical certificates Wow - are there really 45,000 pilots with current medicals in just Northern California? There, see you did lie on your medical didnt you. However, if you are involved in an accident, incident, or disciplinary action, you can bet that the FAA and the necessary authorities will take the time to investigate, and things you didnt disclose will come out. what tests you need, when you need to take these tests, etc) to satisfy the FAA that youre good to go. Hell no!!! My 10k already spent, to me was wasted. Heres a guy who was never diagnosed with depression or showed any signs of it, but still completed the act so feared by these administrators. I forgot to mention that your Idea sounds like a good Idea. But sharing them with the FAA is detrimental to your health. Who gave the FAA the power to stop pilots from flying because they take antidepressants? Driving While Impaired (DWI) from alcohol, drugs, texting and exhaustion is obviously a serious problem and every driver self certifies, there is no evidence in the National Traffic Safety Data Base, that accidents caused by preexisting health conditions and the medications used for their treatment, is a major problem. Gee I wonder how many Pilots become depressed because of the hasseles from the FAA. Also, if you are too young for that, they can check other insurance companies and, apparently, a company, McKesson I believe, that gathers and compiles statistical data from and for insurance companies. Thank you for the help. For pilots with health problems that aren't debilitating but possibly disqualifying, 'fessing up on the application for a third class medical certificate can be a busted-if-you-do, busted-if-you-don't proposition. Do You Need A PHD To Be A Medical Scientist? The system does work though. Hes very consciencious, and does not tolerate much in the way of obfuscation, at which he appears to be very good at spotting. They even asked me are you sure you never had epilepsy attacks?. According to Dr. Guillermo J. Salazar, the federal flight surgeon for the Southwest Region, applicants filling out Form 8500-8 often skip Block 17, which asks about medications, rather than spill the beans. As a pilot since 1953, and now a retired vascular surgeon who still flies, I have wondered for years if there is any evidence that pilot physical exams save lives. Im in an odd spot and a bit of a time crunch when it comes to getting a medical certificate. At a certain point there is the issue of freedom vs safety. My new AME, (old one finally retired,) is a pilot, as is his wife, the office manager and head nurse. I can tell you from experience that once the AME releases their pronouncement, nothing else occurs. If you have a FAA medical denial for ADHD, call your aviation attorney at The Ison Law Firm for a consultation. Take two people, with same medical condition, one who has been denied previously and the other who has not. Do you need to have 20/20 vision to be a pilot? Self certification is where the FAA should focus their energy. https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/06180933/doctorlargesquare1.jpg, https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/06142440/Air-Facts-Logo340.jpg, COPYRIGHT 2011-2023, SPORTSMAN'S MARKET, INC. All Rights Reserved. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Usually, that period of time is 60 days. Make a copy of the original and keep that in a safe place. You miss the point. With a second class medical, itll be 12 calendar months, and if you start with the third class medical, itll be for 24 calendar months. 3. have you ever once in your life had and on the other hand they are so vague. The information contained herein is meant for informational purposes only. With $ 20.00 USD anything is possible down there and then just let the FAA go through hoops to find my one in a million medicals just to disqualify and pull my medicalwhich is fake after allwill give them and me something to do till I can think of some other ways to pass the time with the all mighty FAA. It is important to point out, according to the AOPA, there have been no accidents related to pilots self-certifying and flying under the Sport program, and many of those pilots Im sure, were under the same misconception as me! , you can navigate the process efficiently. I aeree. What Are the Chances of and Penalties for Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? Google "Operation Safe Pilot." In a blatant violation of the privacy act of 1974 as amended, the FAA, DOT Inspector General, and SSA Inspector General, conducted an illegal database match looking for common personally identifying information (names and/or social security numbers) in the FAA medical certificate database and the SSA Title 2 and Title 16 disability databases of 45,000 Northern . We only use the Needless to say, I have never taken a $100 Hamburger flight. I am unconscious every night. Theyre just scared something is going to happen in the air. Try to determine why it is required of you, but not others, with OSA. Therefore, I lied. Learn more here: thepilotlawyer.com/faa-medical/. They, and AOPA, worked with me to get it corrected. You are assumed to be lying. It is also very much a question of freedom. It's not those. It can also ensure you keep flying for years to come. MEDICAL CATEGORY 3: This category applies to the issue or revalidation of Student Pilot Permit, Helicopters, Gyroplane, Balloon, Pilot Permit, Gyroplane, Private Pilot Licence Aeroplane, Helicopter Pilot Licence, Flight Instructor Rating, Glider, Ultra-light Aeroplanes. FAA needs to justify their man hours.with scapegoats. Aviation medicals protect your lifeand a periodic physical is smart. should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. I manage my health daily so as to not have to place them in a position to yank my ticket or otherwise cause me not to self certify. No mercy from the FAA and I was not even allowed to go to a hearing I just got the notice of revocation one day and that was it. I Fly America 2021, Paul Engstrom, Aviation Writer and IFA Member, Health for Pilots: A Complete Guide to FAA Medical Certification and Self-Care. Duration of Medical Certificate Pilots who are age 40 and older will still renew a third class medical every 24 months. Yea if you got deep pockets to afford the tests you Probably dont need. Question 17 can identify for the FAA that an individual is currently taking a disqualifying medication such as Adderall, Ritalin, Concerta, Strattera, etc, commonly used to treat ADHD. I think the medical is about to date as traveling by the hose & buggy. I think that increasing the value of a worn out C150 to about $100K (which would happen the day they were included in the category) would take most of the trainer fleet out of circulation and the already paultry number of students would dry up completely. The reader should always consult his or her doctor before discontinuation of any medication. It is probably one of the most important benefits they offer their members. Out of those, the number of GA deaths from medical incapacitation is tiny. Im still going to try to jump through the medical hoops because I love to fly. Many pilots get away with submitting false information on their MedXPress applications. The information they request is typically a collection of recent medical records that address the concerns they identified in your application. They have been instrumental in getting my medical back these last three years. Many of the requirements for special issuance for example are redundant and simply bureaucratic paper chases. At least my livelihood doesnt depend on it. What Are the Chances of Getting Caught Lying on an FAA Medical? Jack, petition the FAA to quit demanding the maintenance of wakefulness test. The issue is what we feel is important, because the government wants a complete history and providing it isnt possible and pilots are going to make their own judgements about whats truly important to fully disclose. The FAA Medical requirements need revision and made more rational instead of simply being a procedural nightmare for pilots. By the way a friend of mine died 2 hours after acquiring his 2nd class medical. You would be surprised how many complaints FSDOs receive for folks reporting their family members. I would like to see how many incidents of NOT seeking medical attention, due to knowing that the FAA will pull their ticket, have led to problems. The FAA medical certification process has at times made me feel that I was in actual hell. So why open a can of worms by telling the aviation medical examiner? In-case if you ever get into an accident the FAA/NTSB will look through all your medical history and do a thorough check on that pilot meaning they want to look at every doctor visit and all medications you have been on. Today with the revolution in the medical diagnostic procedures, and early detection system and timely treatment most airline pilots will qualify and pass the medical exam if the questions were not leading ones. People go to prison all the time because they lied to the FBI, FTC, or other federal agency. Most those fellas at the FAA seem pretty smart, but they must be pretty spineless too. If say 10% are due to medical incapacitation, that would be 45-50 deaths a year. If the FAA wants to do the medical process it should be strictly for airlines or commercial pilots for the first and second class medical. Everyone should say they have been dizzy. Checking this I was advised at my medical I had LBBB to determine why it is required of,. Have 20/20 vision to be careful what you ask for medical form of! And kidney disease for years to come need, when you need to have 20/20 to! Of any medication depression, and many are contentious can be difficult make more the! 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